Legend 187 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 What happens? Gameforge starts to close Private Servers? Servers down: Hardcore Reloaded Underground Mt2 Shiro2 Shiro3 Cyperia M2Global Vacation2 Lavanda2 Rocknada2 Can anyone tell us what happening? Play on 14:40: The time has come? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegaS 1101 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 The time has come. Congratulations, Gameforge (if it is true). http://lavanda2.net/ - Online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend 187 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, VegaS said: The time has come. Congratulations, Gameforge (if it is true). http://lavanda2.net/ - Online The site still alive, but the server is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegaS 1101 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Photo from me (discussion between me and an owner who is in that list, one of the largest.) Stop stealing this photo and put it on other forums. Edited August 20, 2022 by Metin2 Dev Core X - External 2 Internal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend 187 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, VegaS said: Photo from me (discussion between me and an owner who is in that list, one of the largest.) This is very bad for these people who have these servers. For these people who want to open a server i think the only solution is that: Outside of europe is the only solution to keep a server alive. Edited August 20, 2022 by Metin2 Dev Core X - External 2 Internal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Staff Shisui 493 Posted September 15, 2016 Former Staff Share Posted September 15, 2016 They're playing with fire, in my humble opinion. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend 187 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Just now, Shisui said: They're playing with fire, in my humble opinion. Both sides play with fire at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Speachless 766 Posted September 16, 2016 Premium Share Posted September 16, 2016 Do you see the pattern? All that servers used cloudflare. GF made just some reports to cloudflare and they disabled the ns or something like that. Another pattern is that all are(were) german. GF is german, so they can report only in their country or they just look for germany which is more easy for them. Don't use metin2 name anymore guys, find another name for your server, make your server don't look with metin2. Change the interface. ps : Cyperia announced the closure on facebook ( they said for personal reasons and because a person died ) anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Istny 79 Posted September 16, 2016 Premium Share Posted September 16, 2016 Looks like only germany, but until someone don't tell what happend we can only wondering We don't know what gameforge done, maybe the only takedown websites, and owners in panic disabled game servers also. i have hope owners of these server are not coward and tell something more ;x shiro3 statment translated via googleDear Community, as you know, it came yesterday at 23:00 to the decision to move the server start of the project due to legal reasons indefinitely. I want to mention again that you should please stay calm here. We had this serious decision taken quickly, to the situation in which we find ourselves is clear. The project Shiro3 is not canceled. It could be that we start this weekend. It may also be that it is shifted by 7 days. To you to name any exact period, we have access to the generalized term "indefinitely". Thus, of course, should also be clear that your investments, whether money or anticipation going, never lost. You need us as a community some understanding bring to, because we're not talking about a DDoS or hacker attack, but of something far worse.Therefore, I ask now officially again: Widespread no rumors and tolerated you today. We will not later than tonight the correct information and give everything more known. Best regards, The Shiro3 team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris90909090909090 51 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 the problem is not GF the servers down because the admins have shown each other for money or something and more not, <div id="inner-editor"></div> that would be illogical if only specific server down would by GF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorable Member martysama0134 7202 Posted September 16, 2016 Honorable Member Share Posted September 16, 2016 7 hours ago, Shisui said: They're playing with fire, in my humble opinion. Even if they do so, Gameforge is not going to get new players with this. They already burnt all their players with their failure of "marketing strategy". The only reason Metin2 lasted up to 2016 was for the mods and the pservers, otherwise it would have been as good as dead. They know it, and that's why they did nothing so far. Now they are desperate, so they will try everything possible to milk more money&players from everywhere. In German, there's a strict law about copyright infringements (never applied to metin2 since 2009 for some "unknown reasons"), so the possibilities are 3: 1) they got DMCA'd from ovh/cloudflare/everywhere possible (like in 2010) 2) they got fined/sanctioned/sued (very improbable) 3) they got threaten by gf, so they are making the new project "take the money and ran far away" As long as WOM is online (one of the biggest threats to GF), I'm not going to believe to the "annihilation" theory 8 Check out my GitHub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris90909090909090 51 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, martysama0134 said: Even if they do so, Gameforge is not going to get new players with this. They already burnt all their players with their failure of "marketing strategy". The only reason Metin2 lasted up to 2016 was for the mods and the pservers, otherwise it would have been as good as dead. They know it, and that's why they did nothing so far. Now they are desperate, so they will try everything possible to milk more money&players from everywhere. In German, there's a strict law about copyright infringements (never applied to metin2 since 2009 for some "unknown reasons"), so the possibilities are 3: 1) they got DMCA'd from ovh/cloudflare/everywhere possible (like in 2010) 2) they got fined/sanctioned/sued (very improbable) 3) they got threaten by gf, so they are making the new project "take the money and ran far away" As long as WOM is online (one of the biggest threats to GF), I'm not going to believe to the "annihilation" theory i think the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelM 40 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 These measures are not even remotely a threat. They can shut down and sue, as much as they wish, because the pserver community will never fall. Offtopic: Blizzard ( World of Warcraft's developer and publisher ) is a company bigger than Webzen + Ymir + Gameforge * 20 and they've tried to make a move in the private servers scene, they failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorable Member pollux 818 Posted September 16, 2016 Honorable Member Share Posted September 16, 2016 There are too much stories out there what exactly happened and until one of the affected people is talking about everything i will keep shaking my eggs. Some big rumors are: - they have denigrated each other - Cops are on high alert ( tax investigation unit ) - Gameforge is "enrage" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelM 40 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, .PolluX said: - Gameforge is "enrage" *challenge accepted* Spoiler @DevChuckNorris @.PolluX please don't delete it. COPYRIGHT (C) Gameforge 4D GmbH 2016 - 3001. They gon' sue me! Edited August 20, 2022 by Metin2 Dev Core X - External 2 Internal 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorable Member martysama0134 7202 Posted September 16, 2016 Honorable Member Share Posted September 16, 2016 45 minutes ago, .PolluX said: - Cops are on high alert ( tax investigation unit ) This just means they didn't pay the taxes on Germany for what they earned... so totally unrelated to Gameforge in theory. haha 2 Check out my GitHub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialized 42 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Dont understand the trashtalking. One server goes down for unknown reasons: "OMFG GF GONNA SUE US - FK IM OUTTA HERE!" If you are in this business things like a takedown can happen. A real takedown wouldve worked a little different. They wouldve just been fucked like this if they ignored all the DMCA takedown notices. Now stop pissing your pants and just continue as usual, not that big of a deal. Edited August 20, 2022 by Metin2 Dev Core X - External 2 Internal 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csedwik 1 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 It's not okay. I have a domain, but i don't have any servers and my domain is offline, why cloudflare why? It's not a metin2 website, this is my own project website which is an mmorpg that offline too. It's interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxas07 217 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Private server from germany need to be hosted on some offshore country now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegaS 1101 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Hello Community, as you know, our serverstart was moved on to an indefinite time because of legal problems. But we have good news. The start will only be moved a couple of days. Please wait for more Information till tomorow. Then we have ALL INFORMATION for you. It will be before the evening tomorow! THANK YOU!. Edited August 20, 2022 by Metin2 Dev Core X - External 2 Internal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerneas 10 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, VegaS said: Hello Community, as you know, our serverstart was moved on to an indefinite time because of legal problems. But we have good news. The start will only be moved a couple of days. Please wait for more Information till tomorow. Then we have ALL INFORMATION for you. It will be before the evening tomorow! THANK YOU!. You made my day. xDDDD Edited August 20, 2022 by Metin2 Dev Core X - External 2 Internal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Zerial 488 Posted September 16, 2016 Premium Share Posted September 16, 2016 Bullshit...Really guys, somebody think GF CAN stop all the pservers? Hell no. Most likely now they (GF) alerted CloudFlare to ban the biggest servers who's using their web protection. They can't do shit. These communitys have so much pservers worldwide, they can't ban all of them. The biggest ones, just moving from their hosting to another non european host. Not a big deal. They can never stop pservers, they've make big mistake's a couple of years ago (and they still make so many mistakes) when the source got public. And what if somebody makes another game with this shitty engine? Just replace some models, maps and edit the quest's and the npc names and that's it gf still can't do shit. New name for the new game, replace all the "gameforge" name in functions to "theycantdoshit" and thats it. We are metinimus we are legion etc. Funny how GF tryna act like they can stop people to make money with and from their shit. It's a vicious circle. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Karbust 4913 Posted September 16, 2016 Management Share Posted September 16, 2016 Steam wanted to close a lot of cs go and dota2 gambling sites and some still online, just with some changes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelM 40 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 50 minutes ago, OhhDaNips said: Bullshit...Really guys, somebody think GF CAN stop all the pservers? Hell no. Most likely now they alerted CloudFlare to ban the biggest servers who's using their web protection. They can't do shit. These communitys have so much pservers worldwide, they can't ban all of them. The biggest ones, just moving from their hosting to another non european host. Not a big deal. They can never stop pservers, they've make big mistake's a couple of years ago (and they still make so many mistakes) when the source got public. And what if somebody makes another game with this shitty engine? Just replace some models, maps and edit the quest's and the npc names and that's it gf still can't do shit. New name for the new game, replace all the "gameforge" name in functions to "theycantdoshit" and thats it. We are metinimus we are legion etc. Funny how GF tryna act like they can stop people to make money with and from their shit. It's a vicious circle. CloudFlare is causing problems?! Move to akamai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Zerial 488 Posted September 16, 2016 Premium Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, MichaelM said: CloudFlare is causing problems?! Move to akamai. What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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