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I worked with this designer at a time when he had very few clients, and at first, everything seemed promising. He does good design work, has talent, and a solid creative eye — but professionally, the experience was disappointing.

Delivery times are extremely long, and once he receives payment, his priorities shift. Instead of finishing already-paid projects, he takes on new ones and puts yours on hold — sometimes for months.

I’m writing this specifically to warn others about @KurlzDesign and his lack of professionalism. Recently, I collaborated with him on several design projects (website, patcher, login, select character, select kingdom). While the website was mostly completed, it was never fully finished, even though I paid in full. I had to follow up multiple times for reworks — which were also paid — but he constantly delayed them. I waited months just to receive half of the changes.

This is not an isolated incident. In my experience, I’ve waited over 3 months for relatively simple changes, and back in 2024, I had to wait 5 to 6 months just to receive the patcher design, — which should’ve been delivered much sooner.

Even when I finally received it, several elements were incomplete or missing. For example:

The Renewal Loading Screen and Login Channel design were left unfinished, even after I clearly pointed out what was missing.

For the Select Character screen, I had specified from the beginning that I would have 5 races, but the design was only adapted for 4.

At this point, I don’t have much more to add — except this:

⚠️ Be careful if you plan to work with him. The design quality is there, but the lack of professionalism and accountability can cause serious delays and frustration.

I strongly do not recommend paying in full or even 50% upfront. If you still choose to work with him, do not pay more than 30% in advance, and only release the remaining 70% once the project is fully completed. This way, there’s actual motivation for him to deliver.

I can provide full proof of everything on Discord, if needed.

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Welcome welcome.


The guy received all the designs he paid. Like everything....

He doesn't understand that I have regular job now and my services are very limited.

He had thoughts and dreams that I'll work for him again, but after the time, he lost hopes for professional work by me.

I don't have time for little works, such subpages. 

I work now mostly in figma, delivering professional vector responsive designs.


So to be clear. 
They guy requested designs. I delivered them. After a year he wanted redesigns I did them. 2 subpages left, which weren't paid!

He is just mad, because he has to work with tuora 😂😂😂 kek I'm so sorry bro...

 

That's all.

 

BTW. Levia2 UI is done by me! Check this beautiful UI by playing on the server!

 

Best regards to everyone!

Btw. You waited 6 months for patcher only by your fault. You were offiline whole time. And you said you were sick.

 

And what I did, is the only thing I could do so I understood you and I did patchrr design next day.

 

Lol. 

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Alright. Back to the topic: I will now attach proof from our Discord conversation so we can see who's actually right. I'll also include evidence of the payments made for the redesign — this is €125 out of the total €150 for the full redesign.

There are four items already paid for:

I haven’t received the reworked animation we agreed upon.

I also haven’t received the three missing elements, which have already been paid for.

Regarding the mention of Toura: I haven’t actually contacted him — I simply used him as an example, because at least he delivers on time, unlike you.

I've attached the proof below. I wasn't posting nonsense just to get attention.

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Missing elements(Payed)
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Now, regarding the situation with the First Project: I did mention that I was sick for about 1–2 months. However, I’ve always made that clear, and I kept asking you when you planned to finish the rest. You can clearly see this in the evidence, based on the gap between the dates.
 

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As a final note, be careful what you write, Kurc — at least I have proof for everything I’m saying, so stop making excuses. All I did was post a warning for future buyers.

I could’ve easily filed a report for unprofessional behavior, and the evidence is clear — it doesn’t lie.

I think it’s only fair that when someone pays for something, they receive it as soon as possible — not months later, like in your case.

And honestly, I don’t like having to chase you for something I already paid for. In the end, it’s my money. If you don’t take your work seriously, you’ll end up being seen as an unreliable designer across all communities. I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who waited months for a single design.

Regarding Toura — like you mentioned — I haven’t even contacted him yet. But at least he delivers on time, tells you exactly how long something will take, and finishes the job properly.

In the end, it’s my choice who I want to work with — it’s my money. I didn’t ask you to work for free, and I’ve always paid for the work you completed.

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You just fell for it, everyone knows the shit kurlz has been pulling on everyone for years, in the German scene he's mostly history anyway. He remains and is a money-hungry Polish rat who used to rip people off enough. 

I'm sorry for you and your money, but next time find out about the person you're commissioning beforehand. 

@ AstarothGlobal If you're interested, get in touch with me and I'll get everything ready for you.

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Bro. You are doing shitstorm just because of 2 or 3 subpages. Which were even paid off. You sent me only 50% for subpages. 

The question is, why you didn't even tried to find different designer?

Well. I'm really, really glad we finished cooperation.

At the end of the day, I'm only available for my long term customers.

 

That's all from me. Don't have time for such idiots that can't find different designer....

 

It's your fault. You don't respect your time, you have learned the lesson.

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Following up on what I mentioned earlier.
If this was the first time, I would’ve let it slide — but this is now the third time you’ve failed to deliver what I paid for.

Let’s start with the website.
As clearly shown in the proof (GIF), I did not receive the website banner, nor the social media banners. Yet you received an extra €50, bringing the total to €300, just as we agreed from the start.
 

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PROF WITH ENTIRE CONVERSATION FOR MISSING WEBSITE
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Now about the Game UI (Login, Select, Kingdom, Loading):
I paid €250, exactly as we discussed.
Even here, you delivered a design that wasn’t properly adapted — especially for Lycan — despite me sending everything clearly. You’ll see this in the proof as well.

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PROF WITH ENTIRE CONVERSATION FOR MISSING CLIENT
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Regarding your lie about the website rework payment — where you claimed to have only received 50%:
We agreed from the beginning the rework would be between €100-150.
In the end, I agreed to invest €150, and you’ve already received €125, missing only €25 — which was for the Player Profile (as shown in the screenshot).
So show me proof that I sent “only 50% (€75)” like you falsely claimed.
Stop making things up — if you were professional, we wouldn’t even be in this situation.
PROF PAYMENT 75% NOT 50%
 

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Kurc doesn't know math, please tell him that 50+75 is 125 and not 50%, as he says.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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This is the third time you've done this — it's not the first time you abandoned a project without finishing the designs.

Now, regarding your question — “Why didn’t I hire/find another designer?
Why would I? You were already paid to do this work, and I never received the final product.
So your logic is that I should now pay another designer to finish your job? That’s just stupid.
Who in their right mind would do that?

What kind of “lesson” is that — that you’re an unreliable designer who begs for money?
Need I remind you when you begged me for money for your pills?
At least I haven’t had to stoop that low — you’re embarrassing yourself.
So out of pity, I sent you another few hundred euros.
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And as proof for a Website, Game Design ( Login, Select, Kingdom). Patcher. You received 875E which were not even finished, that's why I came back with a rework kit because I should pay you more money to finish what you couldn't finish from the beginning.
 

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And as a matter of fact, the banner that I have on rank, discord and all that is made by Toura. That you didn't make it, that you weren't able to do it even though you were paid to do it.

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That’s all I have to say.
Good luck — I’ll be posting everything on the forums and all the community platforms, so people can see what kind of “designer” you really are.
Let’s see how many clients you’ll get after this.

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Kurlz/kurc is skilled but unreliable and this is not news, it had been the case for years now (last used in 2023).
If you have the patience to work with him, you will get good results but your project will probably suffer from it

I will never lose any customers.

I am offering webdesign in Figma, also, my UI is one of the most responsive UIs on the Metin2 scene.

I have 12 years of experience, almost 1k  contacts on my discord. 

You are the only one case since years, and that case it's because I was in cooperation with ISOULI and his biggest server Levia2 + I am working as laborant irl 8 to 12hrs a day.

 

You just don't understand, that people have life, wifes, hobbys. Our life is not only work and work.

The fact is that Levia2 had the best start in iSouli career as metin2 developer.

Also 2nd fact is 

I am receiving messages like that one

"Just so you know, I read the post from Metin2Dev and I still want to work with you, just a friendly advice"

- Silver

PS. My metin2dev inbox is full.

 

Have a great day everyone.

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Hey,
Let me be clear from the start — I never said you're not a good designer. In fact, you're the best I’ve worked with so far, and I fully acknowledge your talent.

However, my issue isn’t with your skills, but with the fact that you made promises you didn’t keep. My patience has limits, especially when I’ve been waiting months for certain details to be delivered.
I simply shared proof of our past collaborations, where it’s clear that you left projects unfinished, even though you were paid for them.

When I first contacted you, you had no ongoing work, and you weren’t working with Levia2 at that time.
(And just being honest — servers like Levia usually don’t last more than 5–6 months. After they recover their investment and make a some profit, they typically shut down, like many others servers each month.)

I didn’t ask for anything extra — just that you finish the reworks you were already paid for.
Worse yet, you're now claiming you weren’t paid, even though I’ve posted the payment proof in the topic.

Because of that, I was forced to file a report on Metin2Dev, with video evidence, due to your false statement.

No matter how many clients you may have, it only takes a few people with solid proof to ruin your reputation.

I’m waiting for you to join the Metin2Dev Discord so we can resolve this issue properly.
Because I opened a report in which I attached proof that you did not deliver the finished product and missing elements that are already paid for.

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On 4/17/2025 at 5:56 PM, KurlzDesign said:

I will never lose any customers.

I am offering webdesign in Figma, also, my UI is one of the most responsive UIs on the Metin2 scene.

I have 12 years of experience, almost 1k  contacts on my discord. 

You are the only one case since years, and that case it's because I was in cooperation with ISOULI and his biggest server Levia2 + I am working as laborant irl 8 to 12hrs a day.

 

You just don't understand, that people have life, wifes, hobbys. Our life is not only work and work.

The fact is that Levia2 had the best start in iSouli career as metin2 developer.

Also 2nd fact is 

I am receiving messages like that one

"Just so you know, I read the post from Metin2Dev and I still want to work with you, just a friendly advice"

- Silver

PS. My metin2dev inbox is full.

 

Have a great day everyone.

Its very funny how you still talk shit when you straight up scam people.

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I hope some day ill get a blow for that 50 you owe me, fucking bitch.

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There’s no need to open another report — I’ve already opened one under his name. If we don’t resolve this, he’ll end up being seen as an untrustworthy user/designer.
I forgot to mention that I’ll be posting about this on all Metin2 forums where he’s active.
Even his old clients — the ones he brags about — won’t come back once he’s labeled as an untrustworthy designer.

I’m curious how many clients like me are out there — but they’re starting to show up here too.
I’m calling on everyone: open a report under his name, with clear proof, and that’s it.

I’m waiting for you to join the Metin2Dev Discord so we can resolve this issue properly.
Because I opened a report in which I attached proof that you did not deliver the finished product and missing elements that are already paid for.

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On 4/17/2025 at 4:56 PM, KurlzDesign said:

I will never lose any customers.

I am offering webdesign in Figma, also, my UI is one of the most responsive UIs on the Metin2 scene.

I have 12 years of experience, almost 1k  contacts on my discord. 

You are the only one case since years, and that case it's because I was in cooperation with ISOULI and his biggest server Levia2 + I am working as laborant irl 8 to 12hrs a day.

 

You just don't understand, that people have life, wifes, hobbys. Our life is not only work and work.

The fact is that Levia2 had the best start in iSouli career as metin2 developer.

Also 2nd fact is 

I am receiving messages like that one

"Just so you know, I read the post from Metin2Dev and I still want to work with you, just a friendly advice"

- Silver

PS. My metin2dev inbox is full.

 

Have a great day everyone.

@KurlzDesign You have until Sunday evening (23:59, HF) to join the Metin2 Dev Discord server.
There are open tickets or we are waiting for your response.

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This thread brings up important points, and I can understand both sides. It seems clear that both the seller and the buyer could benefit from taking a step back and approaching the situation calmly.
The seller should either refund the money or work toward a solution, and if that doesn’t happen, some form of action on metin2dev might be appropriate.
At the same time, it's understandable that real-life obligations, hobbies, and other projects can unexpectedly interfere. However, it's generally more professional to communicate openly if you realize you don't have the capacity, for example by saying, "Hey, I’m currently unavailable. Please check back in a couple of months."
Professionalism is something the Metin2 community as a whole can still improve on, and both parties should recognize that public threads often don’t lead to quick resolutions — especially if communication has already broken down.
The bottom line is: only accept commissions if you are reasonably sure you can deliver, but also, customers should allow room for personal circumstances when possible.
And to the thread creator: it's always a good idea to try solving such issues privately first, including requesting a refund, before making it a public matter. That usually leads to better outcomes for everyone involved.

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Ymir Entertainment was founded in 1999 in Seoul, Korea and 
is currently headed by Byoung Gwan Kim as CEO. The company 
started developing its first 2D online game Metin the same 
year it was founded. The game was commercially launched in 
Korea a year later and received a prize from the Korean 
                    Ministry of Information and Communication in December of the 
                    same year. Following the success of their flagship game Ymir 
                    Entertainment immediately started work on the game’s sequel 
                    Metin 2, which went into Closed Beta in Korea in May 2004. 
                    The game was officially launched in Korea and China in March 
                    2005 before being launched in Asia, Europe and North America 
                    in the years that followed. In January 2011 all of the company’s 
                    shares were bought by Webzen Inc., a Korean game giant known for 
                    their popular MMORPG, MU Online. The company was also awarded 
                    Gameforge’s Global Best Partner of the Year in 2011.
                    
                    Source: https://mmos.com/publishers/ymir-entertainment
                    
                    Thank you ymir ? ❤️ and F*** you Gameforge, 2011 you ruined it.

 

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At the moment, I am still waiting to see if we can resolve this issue peacefully.
From my side, there are only a few minor things left to complete, but they are essential.
I do not want to be forced to replace with design just because he refuses to finish the work properly.

How disrespectful can you be to respond by asking why I didn't just hire other designers to complete his work you've already been paid for?
Most professional designers refuse to fix or rework projects that were started by someone else, even if they are offered generous payment.

Moreover, you are lying about your supposed projects and "job" just to protect your reputation.
Until now, you never once mentioned having a job.
Now, suddenly, excuse after excuse appears to delay the delivery and to ask for even more money.


"Once you're labeled a scammer, banned, or marked as an untrustworthy designer, not only Metin2Dev will blacklist you — all other communities will do the same"

You claim to have over 1000+ clients, but you haven't provided a single solid proof.
Meanwhile, complaints are piling up.
The truth is coming out, and you won’t escape the consequences.

You’re desperate for money — but at least earn it honestly.
If you have reached the point of scamming people and disappearing with their money, then you belong among the scammers.

Reply to Ace:
We actually tried to resolve our dispute peacefully, but I waited three months, and he still hasn’t finished a simple rework.
I believe I have been more than patient. I noticed he kept delaying, inventing excuse after excuse to avoid completing his work— just to squeeze more money from me.

I also overlooked issues from our first project (specifically the website) and then the game interface, and still trusted him to finish everything after the rework.
Yes, it’s partly my fault that I paid him even before completion, trusting he would deliver — but clearly, I was wrong.

Now we’ll see if he dares to show up on Discord or reply here on the forum, but I believe he will just disappear for months again, as usual.

There are already 3–4 complaint tickets filed under his name — and this is just the beginning.
Who knows how many more reports will appear once I submit complaints on the other communities where he is active?😂😂😂

If we don’t solve this, I’m warning you now: your reputation as a designer will sink fast.
Let's see what you’ll do when no current or future clients (if you’ll even have any left) trust you anymore because of your unreliability and scamming behavior.

Anyway, that's all I had to say.
Special message to visitors reading this topic:
Take a good look at the kind of “designer” you are dealing with — I wish I had been wrong about him.

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When I get home from work tonight, I'll take care of him.
The deadline has expired.

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