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I was going to type a long rant but I decided since the conversation is so long I'll keep it simple. This is a conversation with the owner of energy reloaded. He's clearly too stubborn and incompetent to be running a server. PSA: Please don't run servers when you're a total moron/asshat.

 

I just checked to make sure he didn't fix the page while denying it ever had an issue, even at this moment I cannot register an account with an 8 character username, 8 character password, and 7 number delete code. http://energyreloaded.org/mmo/index.php?page=register

 

 

[11/2/2014 7:10:18 PM] Roman: I added you because i wanted to register on your site but it isn't letting me

[11/2/2014 7:10:21 PM] Roman: says something about 5 char
[11/2/2014 7:10:37 PM] Roman: all my info matches what it should be, according to the form
[11/2/2014 7:10:50 PM] Roman: so you have something wrong in the POST that doesn't match the form or some other misconfiguration
 
 
 
[11/3/2014 12:01:31 AM] *** K1LL3R has shared contact details with Roman. ***
[11/3/2014 12:02:50 AM] K1LL3R: ???????????????????????????
[11/3/2014 12:11:02 AM] Roman: lol
[11/3/2014 12:11:04 AM] Roman: u here
[11/3/2014 12:11:18 AM] Roman: i weas taking a nap
[11/3/2014 12:11:19 AM] Roman: anyway
[11/3/2014 12:11:28 AM] Roman: i wanted to play ur server but im having trouble registering
[11/3/2014 12:11:31 AM] Roman: im gonna shower brb
[11/3/2014 12:19:58 AM] Roman: ok im back
[11/3/2014 12:19:59 AM] Roman: u here?
[11/3/2014 4:12:15 PM] Roman: so
[11/3/2014 4:12:17 PM] Roman: when you gonna fix your reg
[11/3/2014 4:15:04 PM] K1LL3R: what is to fix?
[11/3/2014 4:15:06 PM] K1LL3R: is working
[11/3/2014 4:15:07 PM] K1LL3R: :)
[11/3/2014 4:18:32 PM] Roman: i told you it isn't
[11/3/2014 4:19:14 PM] Roman: http://puu.sh/cCb5o/154a7ef775.png
[11/3/2014 4:19:19 PM] Roman: http://puu.sh/cCb6x/603229ae04.png
[11/3/2014 4:19:38 PM] Roman: 7 characters, 8 characters, 7 characters, correct code
[11/3/2014 4:19:40 PM] Roman: doesn't work
[11/3/2014 4:35:42 PM] K1LL3R: username
[11/3/2014 4:35:44 PM] K1LL3R: must be 8
[11/3/2014 4:35:49 PM] K1LL3R: password without space
[11/3/2014 6:29:32 PM] Roman: it says 6+ for username
[11/3/2014 6:29:38 PM] Roman: so I'm still right.. it's broken
[11/3/2014 6:29:46 PM] Roman: if it's 8 in the POST it should be 8 in the form
[11/3/2014 6:30:49 PM] Roman: 8 in username doesn't work either.
[11/3/2014 6:30:50 PM] Roman: http://puu.sh/cCkJv/849ee17fe4.png
[11/3/2014 6:31:11 PM] Roman: that's 8 username, 8 password, 7 number delete code
[11/3/2014 6:31:14 PM] Roman: still failing
 
 
 
 
[11/4/2014 10:42:49 PM] Roman: you ever going to fix that shit or what ?
 
 
 
 
[4:41:21 PM] Roman: hello?
[4:46:15 PM] K1LL3R: ?
[5:17:13 PM] Roman: can you fix your reg page
[5:18:34 PM] K1LL3R: nothing to fix
[5:18:37 PM] K1LL3R: everything is working
[5:18:38 PM] K1LL3R: :)
[5:19:15 PM] Roman: no it isn't, I've told you this several times
[5:19:17 PM] Roman: are you braindead or what
[5:19:23 PM] K1LL3R: as i said
[5:19:26 PM] K1LL3R: everything is working
[5:19:29 PM] Roman: as I said, and proved.. it isn't working
[5:19:33 PM] K1LL3R: is working
[5:19:35 PM] Roman: nope
[5:19:36 PM] K1LL3R: :)
[5:19:38 PM] Roman: what a dumbass
[5:19:39 PM] K1LL3R: is working..
[5:19:41 PM] Roman: can't believe you run a server
[5:19:46 PM] K1LL3R: as i said..is working
[5:19:50 PM] K1LL3R: and dumbass..
[5:19:51 PM] Roman: nope
[5:19:52 PM] K1LL3R: are you
[5:19:53 PM] Roman: ignorant piece of shit
[5:19:53 PM] K1LL3R: not me
[5:20:01 PM] Roman: learn English kiddo
[5:20:04 PM] K1LL3R: is not my problem if you dont know how 2 create an account
[5:20:12 PM] Roman: it's your problem reg page is broken
[5:20:17 PM] K1LL3R: your problem
[5:20:17 PM] K1LL3R: not mine
[5:20:29 PM] K1LL3R: if you say..that's my problem
[5:20:30 PM] K1LL3R: write
[5:20:31 PM] Roman: yes it's my problem you're too incompetent to fix a simple PHP reg page
[5:20:33 PM] K1LL3R: username + password
[5:20:35 PM] K1LL3R: here
[5:20:38 PM] K1LL3R: and let me check
[5:20:45 PM] Roman: I've sent you the screenshot already
[5:20:46 PM] K1LL3R: tell me the username + password
[5:20:47 PM] Roman: no need for this nonsense
[5:20:58 PM] K1LL3R: user + pass please :)
[5:21:35 PM] K1LL3R: "The register is not working" .. that's why are a lot of new accounts every day
[5:21:36 PM] Roman: howbout you just make me an account in the db then
[5:21:39 PM] K1LL3R: no
[5:21:41 PM] K1LL3R: tell me
[5:21:44 PM] K1LL3R: the password + user
[5:21:47 PM] K1LL3R: that u tried
[5:21:49 PM] K1LL3R: on register
[5:21:49 PM] Roman: clearly it's working
[5:21:54 PM] Roman: that's why it ISN'T WORKING
[5:21:57 PM] Roman: as proven in screenshots
[5:22:03 PM] K1LL3R: which screenshot?
[5:22:03 PM] Roman: wow you're stupid
[5:22:06 PM] K1LL3R: nope
[5:22:08 PM] K1LL3R: i'm not..
[5:22:09 PM] Roman: [11/3/2014 4:35:42 PM] K1LL3R: username
[11/3/2014 4:35:44 PM] K1LL3R: must be 8
[11/3/2014 4:35:49 PM] K1LL3R: password without space
[11/3/2014 6:29:32 PM] Roman: it says 6+ for username
[11/3/2014 6:29:38 PM] Roman: so I'm still right.. it's broken
[11/3/2014 6:29:46 PM] Roman: if it's 8 in the POST it should be 8 in the form
[11/3/2014 6:30:49 PM] Roman: 8 in username doesn't work either.
[11/3/2014 6:30:50 PM] Roman: http://puu.sh/cCkJv/849ee17fe4.png
[11/3/2014 6:31:11 PM] Roman: that's 8 username, 8 password, 7 number delete code
[11/3/2014 6:31:14 PM] Roman: still failing
[5:22:10 PM] Roman: you are
[5:22:34 PM] K1LL3R: tell me the password son
[5:22:37 PM] K1LL3R: and stop
[5:22:45 PM] K1LL3R: being a kid
[5:22:46 PM] K1LL3R: :)
[5:22:56 PM] Roman: is that how you want this to play out ?
[5:23:04 PM] K1LL3R: are u retard?
[5:23:07 PM] K1LL3R: TELL ME THE PASSWORD
[5:23:08 PM] K1LL3R: wtf
[5:23:09 PM] K1LL3R: :|
[5:23:17 PM] K1LL3R: i asked u something hard?
[5:23:21 PM] K1LL3R: you want an account?
[5:23:24 PM] K1LL3R: tell me that fucking password lol
[5:23:30 PM] Roman: we definitely have issues now, all I wanted was for you to fix your reg page and you're giving me an attitude
[5:23:30 PM] K1LL3R: (facepalm)
[5:23:32 PM] Roman: let me adjust that for you
[5:23:40 PM] K1LL3R: (rofl)
[5:23:43 PM] K1LL3R: funny
[5:23:50 PM] K1LL3R: the single issue here
[5:23:50 PM] Roman: yea sec
[5:23:51 PM] K1LL3R: is you
[5:24:27 PM] Roman: enjoy
[5:24:30 PM] Roman: cya later
[5:24:37 PM] K1LL3R: enjoy?
[5:24:45 PM] K1LL3R: first
[5:24:45 PM] K1LL3R: and now
[5:25:20 PM] Roman: later dumbass
[5:25:24 PM] *** Roman blocked K1LL3R ***
 

 

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exactly, says 6 but even with 8 it doesn't work..lol Just because some people can do it doesn't mean it works. For it to be considered working everyone should be able to register. The error is on the website end because it has nothing to do with the page not loading correctly. It's spitting out an error about the registration each time.

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This "K1LL3R" seems to be funny. I like servers with some shitty homepage backends, it's funny to see how they're trying to explain themself, but it's still just a big cup of shit. I can't even understand why 99% of all server owner uses this default homepage by "Hen".. It's just a creepy code and gave me cancer like no script before.

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I can't even understand why 99% of all server owner uses this default homepage by "Hen".. It's just a creepy code and gave me cancer like no script before.

 

 

99% servers use because its free, not need to paid anything so its more easy and quickly to build metin2 server.

Yes its old code from epvp, also PHP is old, ASP MVC (Framework) is better but more expensive

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It's not just scripted with an old PHP version, it's also using rare mysql_* functions, got a few sql vulnerables and got scripted with mixed HTML + PHP, that's kinda shit.

Sry but ive never heard so much shit in one sentence...

You cant script "with an old version" PHP Script wont be compiled so you just have to change the Plugin version at your apache/nginx and you are fine updating the php version (as long as you dont have any changed php functions used)

Also please tell me how to make a php website without mixed php and html. Php is interpreted by the Server html by the client. So theres no other way than using both

Also what you mean with rare mysql functions? Dispite the fact mysql is deprecated and slower than mysqli theres nothing wrong using it. As long as you do it right (doesnt mean i would still use it)

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It's not just deprecated, it also will be removed in the next major PHP update, that's it. And people who script like '<div class="cusngireun"><?PHP echo $array['name']; ?></div>' are just terrible or lazy scripter.

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  • Moon

It's not just deprecated, it also will be removed in the next major PHP update, that's it. And people who script like '<div class="cusngireun"><?PHP echo $array['name']; ?></div>' are just terrible or lazy scripter.

Ehh not really thats the normal way to do it. Or you wanna tell me the coders of Wordpress and Magento are terrible scripters? What way is better?

echo '<div class="test">'.$array['name'].'</div>';

You mean that way? If you want to fire an echo every time you make a new line go ahead. Even in the phpdocs its used that way

Also i like the removal of mysql from php. The kids wont be able to use hen anymore and cant even setup a Website without using old php versiond

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I won't say, that the scripter of Wordpress are bad, just that their code gave me cancer. The best way to cut off PHP from HTML are template systems. Everyone who's saying that your example is a good way just sucks in his job.

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Yup, Wordpress scripts are shit from coding standards point of view. How to not mix php & html ?
Just don't put logic where you display things. For example the framework I use, has a nice templating engine called Blade:
Also it's crazy to force the player to have a 8 chars account name and 9102391 char passwords.
 
Anyway, After I'll release Metin2CMS , world will be a better place.
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In my opinion, you lost all reason when you insulted first, so the point you tried to prove, just became meaningless due to that.

 

[5:19:17 PM] Roman: are you braindead or what

[5:19:38 PM] Roman: what a dumbass

[5:19:53 PM] Roman: ignorant piece of shit

 

 

 

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Yup, Wordpress scripts are shit from coding standards point of view. How to not mix php & html ?

Just don't put logic where you display things. For example the framework I use, has a nice templating engine called Blade:

Ex: https://github.com/ionutxp/blogging-platform/blob/master/themes/default/home.blade.php

All the logic i've made it's in https://github.com/ionutxp/blogging-platform/tree/master/srcdir :D

Also it's crazy to force the player to have a 8 chars account name and 9102391 char passwords.

Anyway, After I'll release Metin2CMS , world will be a better place.

Never said to put the logic to html. But if you work without any template system you have to used mixed html & php for the output. For me template systems are just a workaround for missing coding knowledge. Smarty is written in php so it cant be faster than php itself. So why use it?

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In my opinion, you lost all reason when you insulted first, so the point you tried to prove, just became meaningless due to that.

 

[5:19:17 PM] Roman: are you braindead or what

[5:19:38 PM] Roman: what a dumbass

[5:19:53 PM] Roman: ignorant piece of shit

 

I see your point, however I lost all patience with this kid after waiting for him for 4 days and having him insult my intelligence every time I told him it doesn't work.

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Smarty it is no longer the prefered template engine. Twig (http://twig.sensiolabs.org/) it's prefered by the most.

Anyway you can use plain php as many frameworks only offer to you Views (V from MVC). Don't get me wrong:

<html>
   <head>
      <title><?php echo $title; ?></title>
   </head>   
   <body>
      <h1><?php echo $categoryName; ?></h1>
      <?php foreach ($articles as $article) { ?>
         <article>
            <h2><?php echo $article['title'] ?></h2>
            <p><?php echo $article['content'] ?></p>
         </article>
      <?php } ?>
   </body>
</html>

It is very ok. But not to make db interogation & data procesing in there, only formating. At this point i've wanted to get.

A simple example for a view class: https://github.com/kohana/core/blob/3.3/master/classes/Kohana/View.php

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Most servers from here (Romania) are owned by kids

Just like anywhere else, my dear.

 

And people who script like '<div class="cusngireun"><?PHP echo $array['name']; ?></div>' are just terrible or lazy scripter.

Using this all the time.

 

Smarty it is no longer the prefered template engine. Twig (http://twig.sensiolabs.org/) it's prefered by the most.

Twig is good. However, even Symfony (which is the number one framework to use Twig) offers PHP "templating".

 

BTW, props to the OP for showering in only eight minutes.

Seems like getting an account on that server got you quite excited.

 

Hennink's script was pretty fine back when it was written. It is "designed" like many not-so-optimal scripts, and there were quite some critical flaws, which eventually got patched individually over time.

It was also back then (and still, to some extent, is today) when php-mysql was simply the most common MySQL API in PHP with the highest likelyness to be available on almost any PHP installation and hosting provider.

 

The PHP landscape changed a lot in recent years and frameworks as well as object orientation are omnipresent now.

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