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4 minutes ago, DevChuckNorris said:

The critical part are multiple things:

- Providing the client

- Making money without paying taxes

 

Working and making this source is legal (at least based on German law), as you can also see on many other server emulator projects.

Well you cannot use any elements from Metin2, even the gameplay can be a reason to get sued ( Proven by PAC-MAN lawsuit ).

Do you know that WOW P-Servers uses their own code but they still get sued? Sorry.

hahaha i like the pumpken

La 26.09.2019 la 22:29, metin2team a spus:

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/what-is-p2p-peer-to-peer

peer to peer is between game cores.

:))

What p2p communication ?:))

Gameforge undercover.

Acum 2 ore, Sandworks a spus:

I'd really like to know what is the matter if you stole the resources or you did not (all of the people did, sorry). Do you use them? Of course you do. Modifications? Open source? Ahahah. Well, at least you mentioned the engine. Don't forget about granny and speedtree. I doubt that you modified those too. We all are thieves/pirates, call it whatever you want. The end of debate.

There are a lot of options that you can replace the original stuff, the only question is it worthed? In my opinion, no, is a bit too late to create something similar to Metin. You know that if I re-write the game, that code is mine, I have the rights to use it.

Acum 2 ore, Anix a spus:

Buy a car, add some stuff on it and sell it under your brand. 

Well technically I'm not selling the car, I'm selling the "ride", and in most cases, stuff in the shop doesn't exist on an official server. In any case, I don't have the rights to use the server in the first place. Like I mentioned before, my problem is with the thief part, not with the ownership. I prefer to call my self a Pirate!

Acum 1 minut, pollux a spus:

 

Getting something from a thief also doesn't make you the new owner. Neither changing most of it. If you think like that, you are - and sorry that i have to state this out - a little bit dumb (or naive).

You know my problem is with the thief part, not the owner part. In court, the judge will request for the analysis of the code and graphic stuff by comparing code.

Acum 1 oră, pollux a spus:

So stealing a car and painting it in another color makes it legally your car? 

Nop, because I didn't steal that car my "car" was bought. So technical I'm not the thief, I'm a "pirate". And if I steal a car and change 80% from it, that isn't your car anymore, except for the engine if i don't replace that too.

Well, in my case I blame Gameforge for the state that this game is in. But I didn't had any high expectations because I know that everything GF touches, dies, and that's a fact. Regarding the source, I'm pretty sure I didn't steal it. But I agree with you they have all the rights to act against p-servers that are ruin this community, Rubinum wasn't one of the servers that ruin the community. And about the copyrights laws, I'm pretty sure that Iran doesn't have any, and other 2-3 countries.

At the rate that sources are modified, we can talk about open source.

La 19.08.2019 la 1:53, Istny a spus:

Graph shows revenue ONLY from metin2, you can go through webzen financial reports ans see how much money they make from games like MU

Gameforge does not disclose how much money they make from each game, so we will never know how much money in total metin2 generates 

 

It cannot be, that means gameforge give 500k every month. SG bought license for 250k for 3 years.

La 18.08.2019 la 0:23, Istny a spus:

below graph shows how much webzen makes money of this "dead game" called metin2

Wrong. They have like 10 games, and Metin2 is the only game where they don't get direct revenue, they get only share revenue.

Acum 40 minute, lastone122 a spus:

Ah ok but for what would they pay 8mil E just in 1 Q wtf.

They own Mu

Acum 11 ore, lastone122 a spus:

I am not 100% sure what is going on there but it seems like a very, very, very small amount of money also when it is calculated as korean wons. 1 KRW is 0.000747Euro but probably I am just dumb af because it makes no sense for company as Webzen is, to pay total operating costs only 8Euro............:D

Is in milions not unit.

I'm not really sure whassup but i put an AreaData.txt and with 26 object, and i re-load the map and now there are 25

Acum 10 minute, Sandworks a spus:

At first change the name of the shitty korean directiories since it is only causing problems and it is really not that important as the ID itself. At second I cannot even imagine what could've happened with your property IDs. I work with WE since it is out and I've never really had such a problem even with the older versions. Maybe you just replaced it unwillingly without even knowing it? What version of WE do you use?

It seems that if a property cannot be found is just remove it. The index that I saw was only effects that weren't removed...

Hi, so I worked for some time at a map, I had some problems with my PC and I re-install the windows. Now World Edit isn't taking the old stuff from property/c/01.Ľş, stuff with strange characters. Anyway that isn't really a problem for me, my problem is that a lot of the prb from a,b,c changed the index for that building... I can fix that but my question how was that happen? Because I cannot understand why some index will chance for no reason. And I don't want to spend 1-2 days every time index change...

Me liky.

You are searching for how much Gameforge is sharing revenue with Webzen? Is about 66k in one month.

https://wiki.ruya2.com/

Acum 1 oră, Dobrescu Sebastian a spus:

It's time to act like criminals buy russian servers, hide under vpns, give falsa data. Live in a cave

Честно товарищ!

Gameforge says that private servers ruin the game. But is really the truth?

In an era of Fortnite, Counter-Strike, League of Legends, Fifa, GTA, and Pubg... Gameforge is thinking that players want to spend another 10 years in a game. There is not a single private owner that isn't talking about a limited pool of players that is shrinking every year. This is all of us left in this community, there ain't nobody coming. While official servers have only one gameplay called "give me your money", private server has one for every player. And yes indeed official servers can guarantee longevity, but is that what players are searching for?
Why is that every time a private server is closing, players are not joining on an official server? Maybe because they do not want to think which of the kidney to sell so they can get a mount.
Did anyone of you though why Gameforge wasn't fighting M2Bob?

Simple, because it was profitable. The item market was seized by bots selling EVERYTHING, so you did not have anything to sell.
And you were forced to buy from the item shop, then sell them on the game. When it was not profitable, they implemented legal hacks.
Hiding under all of the Free to play banners is always a Pay2Win one, ready to grab your wallet.

This is war.